I have finally figured out a way of placing layers without lists. My method uses clones to first make reference points. Then go back by a weird calculation that I don't really fully understand. (trial and error) :) ... But hey, it works without using any lists! Use Mouse to place clones.
******************* NO LISTS USED !!! ******************* All me for this one, but I had some help in figuring out how these layers in Scratch work from some really smart scratchers and I still don't quite get it!